open letter to the powers that be, to a god, a king, a head of state, a captain of industry...
my painting of the last supper was a simple study of the idea of media figures as icons and the idea of media having more power than religion in peoples daily lives. Nothing more, nothing less...Not meant to offend anyone nor was it a religious statement. the media is the message.
Saturday, October 25, 2008
flower of life
all geometry is contained in the flower of life. I think it is a symbol of quantum reality, because how you choose to look at it affects what you see. I prefer to stick to the non-esoteric side of geometry. Math doesnt lie, people lie.
flower of life
gardega---flower of life.
flower of life--temple of Osiris, Egypt
flower of life --temple in india
Leonardo sketches
words of the day--bob dylan
The air is gettin hotter, theres a rumblin in the skies.
Ive been wadin through the high muddy waters,
But the heat riseth in my eyes.
Everyday your memory goes dimmer,
It doesnt haunt me like it did before.
Ive been walkin through the middle of nowhere,
Tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
When I was in missouri, they would not let me be.
I had to leave there in a hurry, I only saw what they let me see.
You broke a heart that loved you,
Now you can seal up the book and not write anymore.
Ive been walkin that lonesome valley,
Tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
People on the platforms, waitin for the trains.
I can hear their hearts a-beatin, like pendulum swingin on chains.
When you think that youve lost everything,
You find out you can always lose a little more.
Im just going down the road feelin bad,
Tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
...
Im goin down the river, down to new orleans.
They tell me everything is gonna be all right,
But I dont know what all right even means.
I was ridin in a buggy with miss mary jane,
Miss mary jane got a house in baltimore.
Ive been all around the world boys,
Im tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
Gotta sleep down in the parlor, and relive my dreams.
I close my eyes and I wonder, if everything is as hollow as it seems.
Some trains dont pull no gamblers,
No midnight/midlife? ramblers like they did before.
Ive been to sugartown, I shook the sugar down,
Now Im tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
Ive been wadin through the high muddy waters,
But the heat riseth in my eyes.
Everyday your memory goes dimmer,
It doesnt haunt me like it did before.
Ive been walkin through the middle of nowhere,
Tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
When I was in missouri, they would not let me be.
I had to leave there in a hurry, I only saw what they let me see.
You broke a heart that loved you,
Now you can seal up the book and not write anymore.
Ive been walkin that lonesome valley,
Tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
People on the platforms, waitin for the trains.
I can hear their hearts a-beatin, like pendulum swingin on chains.
When you think that youve lost everything,
You find out you can always lose a little more.
Im just going down the road feelin bad,
Tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
...
Im goin down the river, down to new orleans.
They tell me everything is gonna be all right,
But I dont know what all right even means.
I was ridin in a buggy with miss mary jane,
Miss mary jane got a house in baltimore.
Ive been all around the world boys,
Im tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
Gotta sleep down in the parlor, and relive my dreams.
I close my eyes and I wonder, if everything is as hollow as it seems.
Some trains dont pull no gamblers,
No midnight/midlife? ramblers like they did before.
Ive been to sugartown, I shook the sugar down,
Now Im tryin to get to heaven before they close the door.
watercolor of the day
I woke up in a foul mood this morning and painted this to clear my mind. This is the Flower of Life---- one of my favorite symbols. They are very confusing to construct and I always find myself struggling to make it right. I can tell you this--whomever is making those crop circles I know not but I do know it is not two guys with sticks...This is only 6 inches across and it took me two hours to make. A large one in a field would take days and nights. I am not saying UFO's make them but it isnt guys with sticks. Here is a video of sacred geometry crop circles. The people who laugh at me about this idea have usually never held a compass in their hand.video:
http://v.ku6.com/show/gKn1EuxOuTSAowss.html
Gardega on Political Correctness
For hose who care about art and freedom of expression there is a cloud on the horizon, nay it is not on the horizon but looming directly over head like a bad hangover! Orwell spoke of thought control and its origins lie in speech..control the speech and you can mold the thoughts. As I look at my bookshelf and the writers I admire I think of the books that would not be published today. I could take down all my Twain books and chuck those into the trash as well as half my Hemingway books. I could pretty much throw out a third of my books. Political correctness was sold to us as something nice, something warm and fuzzy, another step up the stairs towards some distant utopian monument. "Never offend" is the motto etched in the shining marble at the top. Even satire has been gutted and cleaned like a fish. I am waiting for a time machine to be built so I can go and sit in Lenny Bruce's final show.
Imagine a clean and squeaky future-world of neutered art and stories---would it have that new car smell?
Imagine a clean and squeaky future-world of neutered art and stories---would it have that new car smell?
Friday, October 24, 2008
dali
As outrageous and mad as these claims may appear, Dali’s obsession with the centre of the universe was genuine. He met Thom, was well aware of Einstein’s discoveries on the laws of physics and was specifically fascinated with quantum mechanics and how this would change our understanding of the universe. In 1958, he wrote in his "Anti-Matter Manifesto”: "In the Surrealist period I wanted to create the iconography of the interior world and the world of the marvellous, of my father Freud. Today the exterior world and that of physics, has transcended the one of psychology. My father today is Dr. Heisenberg" –the person who created the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle. In seeing the connection between quantum physics and the mind and how it will supersede psychology, he was decades ahead of his and our time. Specifically, he not merely understand, but was able to visualise this in his surreal other world that he created on his canvases.
That makes Dali a visionary. Was he an alchemist? Dali met Uri Geller in Barcelona for a couple of days. Geller bent a gold fork in Dali’s hand; the latter took off to a room in his house, and locked himself in there for hours. For some, it is evidence of his madness. Perhaps, but when he emerged, he was holding a rock crystal sphere, which was his gift to Geller and which now sits proudly on the hood of Geller’s Cadillac, which is coated in bent spoons.
Dalà could indeed have been a true alchemist. In 1958, he painted a “meditative rose”. For an alchemist, mastery of divine geometry is the first step towards mastery over the elements. He noted that the rhinoceros horn grows according to a logarithmic spiral, which he then began to incorporate into his paintings. But the element he wanted to capture seems to have been Air. Before buying the castle Pubol, Dali had set his sight on Quermanco, between Figueras and Cadaques. In the end, the sale did not go through and he had to abandon his plan to use the castle as the stage for the installation of the Organ of Tramontane, a northerly wind. Dali wanted the organ's music to be heard by the people of the region. Locals believed the wind could drive people mad – and it seems Dali was about to test the validity of that claim.
He was fascinated by DNA and the hypercube; the latter, a four-dimensional cube, is featured in the painting Crucifixion (Corpus Hypercubus, 1954). On his return from New York, Dalà announced that he was going to paint a picture he himself termed as sensational: an exploding Christ, nuclear and hypercubic. It would be the first picture painted with a classical technique and an academic formula, but composed of cubic elements. To a reporter who asked him why he wanted to depict Christ exploding, he replied, "I don't know yet. First I have ideas, I explain them later. This picture will be the great metaphysical work of my summer."
Once completed, Dali defined it as "metaphysical, transcendent cubism”: "It is based entirely on the Treatise on Cubic Form by Juan de Herrera, Philip II's architect, builder of the Escorial Palace; it is a treatise inspired by Ars Magna of the Catalonian philosopher and alchemist, Raymond Lull. The cross is formed by an octahedral hypercube. The number nine is identifiable and becomes especially consubstantial with the body of Christ. The extremely noble figure of Gala is the perfect union of the development of the hypercubic octahedron on the human level of the cube. She is depicted in front of the Bay of Port Lligat. The most noble beings were painted by Velazquez and Zurbaran; I only approach nobility while painting Gala, and nobility can only be inspired by the human being."
Observers have noted that this work is actually a marriage between faith and science and sits rightly within the series of Dali’s 18 masterworks. This marriage by Dali has been labelled “Nuclear Mysticism”, in short, a marriage of Christian imagery with modern forms and depictions. Dali was hence a modern alchemist.
Last Supper Painting
It seems I was presumptuous in assuming the Palm Would be hanging my painting..Given certain circumstances, it will not be hanging. The painting was not meant to offend it was good natured caricature.
George Orwell diary october 23 1938
Soil here is extremely deep, at least 4’ without any change of substance. Rather light & reddish, though it dries into a kind of brick, & said to need a lot of manure.
Some of the small oranges (“mandarins”) are yellowing. Some lemons almost ripe, others only in blossom – different kinds, perhaps.¹
Today the first day we have had when it was cool all the time. Overcast, windy & some rain rather like a damp day in September in England. The day before yesterday a little rain with much thunder.
The doves come to the house from time to time & are very tame, eating from one’s hand with a little persuasion. Saw a partridge in the grounds yesterday.
Today sowed seeds of nasturtiums, phlox D.² & pansies.
Flytox very good & kills flies by the thousand. Otherwise they are utterly intolerable.
Red chilis° spread out to dry in the fields, like huge red carpets.
moonlight flight
For a few years now I have been painting pictures of creatures (angels?) taking off from mountains and flying up into the sky..I am not sure why I paint these..I painted my first one two years ago on the beach in Lost Angeles (alone on thanksgiving.) I recently received an illustration assignment for a magazine to paint the exact same picture--life is strange..here is one of my studies...this is called "strange world: moonlight flight"
click below to bid/ buy:
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painting of the day---raft of medusa 1818–1819
This is one of my favorite paintings. It is painted by Gericault and is a very important work because it was a psychological break from the neo-classical style (which had become stale and lifeless as a plaster cast) and led to a movement of romanticism which is a great period of art (in spite of its own faults)..this is a painting about politics and what really led to the shipwreck of the Medusa. The ship that eventually saved them was called the argus--I am seeing a greek theme here. On the raft is a portrait of Gericault's student Delacroix who became a very famous artist in his own right. I think there are two kinds of artists, those who like neocalssical and those who like the dark underbelly of romanticism..I prefer storms to calm weather..this picture has life and energy and that is what art should have.
I have a few pieces for sale on Ebay ending today. Have a meeting with The Brooklyn Paper, will post more work around noon.
link for ebay is below:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290269425671&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
link for ebay is below:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290269425671&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
Thursday, October 23, 2008
sketchbook page
I am always interested in seeing an artists sketchbook pages as much as his finished work because that is where you can see thought process (or lack thereof) Here is a random sample from my sketchbook. I make hundreds and hundreds of these. I sell them for 20 dollars a piece if you would like one--- I do not look at them as finished work, just meanderings..I would give my thumbs for a single DaVinci sketchbook page and gladly learn to draw with my toes.
last supper
32 square feet of sacred media geometry.I spent three months on this picture...I spent one month studying the geometry of the original..I decided to keep a heightened reality in color and mood as I decided the somber mood of the origianl would not work in the bright glare of media kleig lights. I really like this painting in the outdoor setting and may repaint entire thing with the grass and trees so it is a painting in a painting thus increasing the surrealistic feel of the piece as a whole.
painting for sale
oil painting is for sale..It is called "American Dream" oil paint 16 x 20 on masonite. It is featured in todays online page six.Linked below:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10232008/gossip/pagesix/satirical_supper_134806.htm
TO PURCHASE CALL 917 400 1317
photo by victoria--ny post
detail of painting
someone wrote this today about my painting on a democratic underground website
"The Google search didn't turn up a image for it, and I can't tell whether this dude is being satirical or a wingnut. He's featured muliple times in the wingnut NYP and in his blog he links to a "science fact" from a Faux outlet."
It seems people want to know why and where I am coming from in regards to the painting..I say it is not important for them to know just as it is not important for me to know---gardega
contact info:
Questions and or comments or simply anything related to art...
alexgardega@gmail.com
917 400 1317
alexgardega@gmail.com
917 400 1317
geometry
I love geometry...It is so important to understand some geometry in art.It was they key to the kingdom of the Renaissance. Here is some basic studies I made of the layout of the original last supper. Noticed the three sets of figures are grouped neatly in the four diamonds. Da Vinci code be damned, Dan Brown should learn geometry himself...a thrice told tale by alex.
the last supper
the painting is done and has been for a long time--just thought I would share some progress shots.
about the last supper
I painted the fox news last supper over a three month period..I became interested in the idea of the importance of media figures and how the become iconic images in themselves. Media has in many ways taken us away from art...in the old days painting had much more power because there was no TV and no radio..Imagine going to a museum and see in a Leonardo painting if your brain wasn't numbed and dumbed by 30 yea
rs of TV? Imagine that! That is why people would stand online for hours to see Frederick Churches heart of the Andes for years.
drawing of hillary clinton
Here is a 15 x 20 prep-drawing I made of Hillary Clinton for a glass carving of her. I made two final glass pieces--one was destroyed by a car wreck and the other is in the Clinton's possession. I have the glass image somewhere on this blog. This original drawing is for sale--I forgot to have her sign it but that is life. I endorse no candidates and I hate politics across the boards. This piece is for sale if anyone wants or remembers who she is.
The single hardest piece of art I ever made
This is a carved piece of glass I made in 2000...It is one flat pane of glass in which I tried to create the illusion of depth...It got so complicated I remember I started crying (not proud of this fact) It was three foot high and illuminate with neon on edges. It was stolen from a night club called chaos...I never sued. I am going to make this piece again soon, this time I will take it slow and calm.
doodles--the process
before I make a glass piece or painting I scribble out hundreds of doodles and ideas (on any piece of paper I can find.) These were designs for a commissioned job..it is nice to get paid for your doodles so you dont feel you are wasting time and goofing around. Once I find a sketch with some life in it I work it out further and try not to "work the life out of it" as I draw it bigger and refine it.
gardega of the day
I made this piece in glass many, many many years ago...I spent my last 80 dollars on a model--a german girl---- and carved this piece the following day...I sold it in a gallery the next day for 5,000.00..Ah the fond memories of living on the artistic edge of a dark cliff...reminds me of last week.
artist of the day---goya (March 30, 1746 – April 16, 1828)
I can never say enough about the genius that was/ is GOYA! He was a court painter in Spain and yet his court portraits do very little to hide his contempt for the people he painted. His honesty was to be admired and his skill to be emulated. I saw a show of his at the Met many moons ago and it left me dazed and mumbling. My favorite works of his are his disaster of war and his later black paintings. How an artist could choose an artist like Sargent over Goya is beyond me...That is like choosing TGIF's over The Palm Steakhouse. Goya legacy will hold sway for centuries (if we survive that long) and all artists should spend some time in The Prado and kneel before the master.
welcome to the home of gardega
for new visitors:
I am a new york based artist who works in glass, oils, watercolor, pencil and various media. I update this site everyday with new art or wisdom and fluff. I have a wide range of collectors and have done a lot of commercial glass art for corporate and private commissions. My work is worth collecting because I am on a mission to save the art world from itself and from the false paradigm of abstraction and conceptual nothingness. Drawing is the cornerstone of art and if you cant draw you should make pizza or pastries...I am of the opinion that my work is worth collecting and will one day bring great value to the people who felt/ feel the same way. Tough times demand art that is of the spirit and not commercialized bunk or empty scribbling.
I am a new york based artist who works in glass, oils, watercolor, pencil and various media. I update this site everyday with new art or wisdom and fluff. I have a wide range of collectors and have done a lot of commercial glass art for corporate and private commissions. My work is worth collecting because I am on a mission to save the art world from itself and from the false paradigm of abstraction and conceptual nothingness. Drawing is the cornerstone of art and if you cant draw you should make pizza or pastries...I am of the opinion that my work is worth collecting and will one day bring great value to the people who felt/ feel the same way. Tough times demand art that is of the spirit and not commercialized bunk or empty scribbling.
last supper
my last supper painting was in page six today..right now it is next to my bed and I sometimes wake up in the middle of the night staring at Bill Oreilly. Once I had a dream I was talking to him. Time for the painting to move on and out of my studio.
odd science fact of the day
If you peel scotch tape off a roll in a vacuum chamber it produces x-rays. odd.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443470,00.html
on a side note--- If you look at a painting by jasper johns in a vacuum chamber you are looking at bad art in a vacuum chamber.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,443470,00.html
on a side note--- If you look at a painting by jasper johns in a vacuum chamber you are looking at bad art in a vacuum chamber.
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
tiffany glass mural
I was recently in discussion to do a church commission. Here is a tiffany glass mosaic mural in the church on the upper west side...Pretty nice piece of work. this is one of the larger glass mosaic tiffany murals around.
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An Irish Christ, huh? I bet he will have to fight Padre Rivera for that title.
Comment by Roger C. — August 26, 2007 @ 8:45 am
all the loyal fox news viewers could put that up in their homes and every night before everyone begins dinner they can pray to Billo LOL
Comment by don — August 26, 2007 @ 9:22 am
If Bill is Christ, that means Olbermann is Satan!
Comment by jmkaib — August 26, 2007 @ 10:01 am
I think this dude might have something. FNC is like a cult machine. Its viewers take everything as it is the Bible. I still don’t get what draws people to watch FNC. Maybe it’s because FNC does the thinking for its viewers therefore the viewers don’t have to waste their energy thinking. I don’t know…
Comment by Me — August 26, 2007 @ 10:12 am
#4, eh, I guess I’ll say I am an exception to that since I still watch CNN and don’t care for much of FNC’s opinion programming. Still, I always find it scary how much people go nuts over FNC and the whole “liberal media” idea, I mean, come on!
Comment by Chris (clind) — August 26, 2007 @ 11:01 am
You people took a non-humorous idea and made it even more inane.
While I watch Fox a lot, I apparently have the wisdom to turn it off when they’re reporting on something trivial, since I seem to watch CNN, CNBC and MSNBC as well. And it sounds like the majority of those on this site do as well, since most of us are conversant on all cable networks.
While I disagree with O’Reilly at times, the majority of his programs are in fact dedicated to going after corrupt people who are either criminals, or are in authority positions and not doing their jobs. What’s wrong with that?
I appreciate O’Reilly trying to hold those in authority accountable, just as I do Lou Dobbs in his crusade for the preservation of the way of life for the middle class. So instead of you people just letting Media Matters tell you why you hate O’Reilly, let’s have some specific examples of what you’ve observed personally. And then tell us why it’s wrong for him to present those stories to his viewers.
Comment by Missy — August 26, 2007 @ 11:08 am
Missy,
I think all that any of us want in a journalist, anchor, reporter, or commentator is fairness and the truth. When they begin to show shades of hypocrisy, that’s when their integrity gets called into question.
And just about all the big names have questions beside them. O’Reilly rails on sexual predators, but sexually harrasses a female producer…Olbermann professes objectivity yet never allows an opposing view on his show…etc.
A little integrity and consistency would be nice….like my wife said about Ted Haggerty, Jimmy Swaggart, Tom Delay, Rush Limbaugh and Mark Foley…
Its the guilty dog that barks first.
Comment by bill — August 26, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Well, since we’re going for “The Most Ridiculous Item of the Day” —
Since Dan Brown’s book The Da Vinci Code claims the person on Christ’s right is Mary Magdalena, Gardega could substitute Ann Coulter.
Comment by Grandpa D — August 26, 2007 @ 11:30 am
I think this dude might have something. CNN is like a cult machine. Its viewers take everything as it is the Bible. I still don’t get what draws people to watch CNN. Maybe it’s because CNN does the thinking for its viewers therefore the viewers don’t have to waste their energy thinking. I don’t know…
So Christ would be Larry (hey they are the same age!!) and Judas would be Anderson Cooper, Klein as Satan and Mary Magdalena = Kiran? Hey this is fun and works for any channel.
Comment by Mary Snow — August 26, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
All joking aside, I think the usual band of haters have it right on this one… well, kind of. The artist is painting this as a representation of the crazy way in which some people treat media figures.
“I’m painting it to explore the concept that media has become our new religion.”
There is no doubt that some people put news broadcasters and the people on FOX on a pedestal where they can do no wrong and receive no valid criticism. And while I don’t believe that FOX fans are the ONLY hardcore fans (just look at some of the documenting J$ & Ed have done about KO’s hardcore fans), I can understand why this guy picked FNC first… talking about FNC gets you press. It will be interesting to see, however, how many people pick up this story, and how many of them treat it as “a critique of modern media” instead of the juicier, “someone showing ridiculous devotion for FOX.”
Comment by ImNotBlue — August 26, 2007 @ 12:46 pm
Bill nailed it. Great comment. Agree 100%.
Comment by Alison — August 26, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
OT quibble - Spud, I presume when you title these kinds of posts, you mean ‘Oooo-kay’, and it’s true that ‘okay’ is also correctly rendered as ‘OK’. But when I see ‘ooook’, I automatically parse it as ‘ook’, as in ‘ook-ook’, or monkey-noises. That either interpretation is usually appropriate for the post only adds to my confusion. Just saying - ‘oooo-k’ or ‘ooookay’ would be less ambiguous.
(/pedant)
Comment by Arthur — August 26, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Arthur, I agree. I am thinking he means something yucky.
Comment by elmonica — August 26, 2007 @ 2:10 pm
I think Roger C. says it best in post #1. And Spud’s “Oooooook…” means one thing: “I bet this post will get lotsa comments!”
I think many of you underestimate your fellow citizens. In America, we don’t go out in the world with the exact same ideas about what is going on in the world as the rest of the population. That is the beauty of a free press. Even if someone subscribes only to the CNN view, the MSNBC view, the FNC view, the Bill O’Reilly view, or the Keith Olbermann view, they still can’t go out into the world unchallenged. Americans are not the drones/zombies some of you think they are; because the rest of us won’t let them.
About Bill O’Reilly, even some of you conservatives fail to see that he is not a true conservative. He is way more of a populist than a conservative. That’s why he goes after the big bad bigwigs; and good for him.
In contrast, John Edwards is also a populist; but he’s much more liberal than populist.
Comment by erljr — August 26, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
Bill, nowadays just looking at a woman can constitute sexual harassment. Whatever happened to you libs’ belief in “If it feels good, do it?” BTW, all of you Fox Haters should get a grip. All other tv news outlets are left-wing. You can’t call FNC biased without ceding to the fact all the others have obvious biases. And yes, MSNBC is the biggest piece of crap to hit the airwaves since QVC.
Comment by jmkaib — August 26, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
ah, the right wing, left wing thing. still can’t how coverage of a flood, murder, or other NON-political story can turn into a right wing, left wing thing. If certain personalities on fnc wanna promote all the other media as being MSM and Liberal, I think it’s time for FNC to come out of the closet and declare what everyone knows, it’s the mouthpiece for the repubs. AND is this not true, FNC watchers are the angriest people on earth. Always declaring they are RIGHT (pun intended) and everyone else is wrong and they don’t wanna hear what you have to say. Try it out, and you’ll find it’s true.
AND gotta love Mary Snow’s comments. AC and klein are satan. AND saying bad things about Kiran. Mary, wonder how your client John Roberts would like what you say about the person he works with everyday….huh?
Call mary snow today(212) 765-3040
Comment by Me — August 26, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
Me, there you go, claiming that FNC is the mouthpiece for the GOP. If you are going to claim that FNC is the mouthpiece for the GOP, than at least have the decency to disclose you get all your information form MediaMatters and Newshounds. FNC is biased to the right, but that does not make them a “mouthpiece” for the GOP.
Comment by jmkaib — August 26, 2007 @ 4:00 pm
^ Please read this link and get back to me with an explanation.
“It got exactly one mention in prime time on FOX News during a news cut-in.”
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/iraq/war_news_is_depressing_lindsay_lohan_is_hot_65770.asp#email
Comment by Terance — August 26, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Fred Barnes explained this best. Basically, the MSM overreacted. John Warner has been a critic of the surge since the beginning. It was no surprise! FNC reports bad news from Iraq. BTW, yes FNC is biased! But so are all other outlets, in one way or another. News Anchors choose which stories to air and which to not. MSNBC and CNN refuse certain stories, and FNC refuses certain stories. BTW, this comes from Howard Kurtz, who repeatedly cheers for CNN. Did he have any conservatives on his panel. I doubt it. Reliable Sources must be the second-worst show on CNN, after Larry King. While FNC barely mentioned it, CNN kept talking about it. CNN overblew the story.
Comment by jmkaib — August 26, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
Terance - I actually saw Reliable Sources this morning. This was an out of context comment from one of the panelists(Michelle Cottle). The “one mention of Warner’s comments” during just three hours (8pm-11pm ET) was actually one more mention than CNN had in that same time period(CNN had a Larry King rerun and God’s Christian Warriors).
Comment by erljr — August 26, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
Ooooooooooooooooook…
Comment by Spud — August 26, 2007 @ 4:53 pm
Did I say AC and Klein were Satan? Do you have someone at the “special home” you live in read these to you and with them having lesser comprehension problems than you got it all wrong? Now John Roberts is my “client”. What happened to Aaron? Well you should hear what he says about Kiran to her face that she doesn’t understand. The things he says about you and the emails you send to Anderson are crap-tasticly funny!
The guys in the 360blog area have almost got Me and all the Ann’s comments matched up.
Comment by Mary Snow — August 26, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Thanks for the responses! But, the point is, FNC’s notorious for pushing bad republican news to cut-ins. And no, I’m not saying CNN or MSNBC’s perfect either.
Also Erljr, I recall you posting something about CNN not identifying the latest democrat in whatever scandal he was involved in. With that said, whats worse.. misidentifying party affiliation or just reporting him as a Representative?
Comment by Terance — August 26, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
Ok “Me”, Mary Snow, and everyone else engaging in this stupid little back and forth…
It ends now. Either you end it or I’ll end it for you…
It takes two to tango. It takes a troll and someone to feed the troll. I’m not going to waste time figuring out who started it becuase you’re all keeping it alive.
Comment by Spud — August 26, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
Terance - the Democrat was Brian Baird and he is a representative - a member of the US House - and he wasn’t misidentified by anyone that I know of. He also just returned from Iraq. He voted against the war originally, but - on the same day Warner spoke - said the surge needs to continue, and reducing force levels would send the opposite message to the Iraqi government. All I said was that his statements were omited from the coverage on CNN and MSNBC.
Comment by erljr — August 26, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
Ok, Erljr. In reference to “misidentifying”, I was speaking about FNC’s track record of labeling republicans as democrats. And wondered whether omitting party affiliation was worse in your opinion than mislabeled chyrons.
Comment by Terance — August 26, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
I’m missing something Terance. Yes, I know about “FNC’s track record of labeling republicans as democrats.” But how did “omitting party affiliation” come up?
The answer to your question: I think it is better to omit than to mislabel. If the person running the chyrons doesn’t know something, they shouldn’t guess. What do you think?
Comment by erljr — August 26, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Silly me, I meant Ted Haggard, not Haggerty.
Oh, jmkaib…since when does seeing all sides of an issue make me a ‘lib’? Incredible! But if being objective makes me a liberal, I’ll wear that badge proudly.
Comment by bill — August 26, 2007 @ 6:27 pm
Erljr, recently when CNN omitted party affiliation while reporting on a democrat… I thought that’s what you were talking about. But, I now realize after reading this, “All I said was that his statements were omitted from the coverage on CNN and MSNBC.” that I’m confused and talking about either something different entirely or not exactly relevant to your original post. Sorry.
Comment by Terance — August 26, 2007 @ 6:30 pm
Let me see if I have this right Me. FNC viewers are too dumb to think so that’s why they watch FNC. Ergo, all the intelligent viewers watch CNN, MSNBC, etc. No wonder this country is in trouble. If we are to believe the ratings, we hardly have any intelligent people “left” in the land!
Comment by Dee — August 26, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
No wonder this country is in trouble. If we are to believe the ratings, we hardly have any intelligent people “left” in the land!
No duh? Check out how many people could point to Iraq on a map. Or blame everything on conspiracies because they can’t understand complex interlocking systems. I was talking to a guy the other day who insisted Hurricane DEAN was a government hoax. I forgot to ask him what news network he watches, alas.
Comment by Arthur — August 26, 2007 @ 8:22 pm
Maybe he doesn’t watch any channel, Arthur. Such people do exist and they react that way because no matter what they see, read or hear, they ignore. It has nothing to do with stupidity. It’s more like tunnel vision - I know what I know because I know it.
Comment by Dee — August 26, 2007 @ 11:04 pm
thanks for paying any attention guys. My point with the painting is neither left nor right. It is about the emptiness of modern culture and what has taken place of religion and religious art and feeling. I am fascinated by the importance we give to media figures in our world. I am flattered that you guys discussed the work.